You're right - he'll never have what they do, and he knows it. Karma.

That is so true. And somehow, I think knowing this that things won't be the same for him for awhile.

You really got me thinking about the Joff in my universe too. In POLY there is a hint of it, that he wants something more than what he gets from Scottie but I'm not sure I see him getting it. You've given me a plot bunny for a whole new fic where Joff will get it but I need to finish POLY first. You've actually given me some ideas for the epilogue to POLY too.